You can now PRINT PCBs! Creating a homemade PCB with the Voltera V-One PCB Printer!

31. 01. 2021
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Voltera V-One PCB Printer on Elektor.com: bit.ly/Voltera-more-information
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In this video I will be testing out the Voltera V-One PCB printer and create a homemade PCB version of one of my older PCB projects in order to find out whether such a PCB printer is a good replacement for proper PCB manufacturers. Along the way we will discover all the advantages and disadvantages such a printer comes with. Let's get started!
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Music:
2011 Lookalike by Bartlebeats
Killing Time, Kevin MacLeod
(incompetech.com)
0:00 Introduction (Why PCBs are important!)
1:17 Introducing the PCB printer
1:55 Intro
2:42 Unpacking the PCB printer
3:19 Installing the software
3:52 Deciding on an example PCB project
4:21 Drill process
5:48 Printing the top layer
7:35 Printing the bottom layer
8:04 Adding the rivets
8:25 Soldering the components
8:51 Homemade PCB of one of my older projects
10:51 Verdict of the PCB printer

Komentáře
  • I think the high price tag is a significant deterrent for a great number of tinkerers. The company could think about metal dust and laser sintering rather than fluid printing, in order to lower the price, other than allowing even finer traces and up to a certain extent, even laser soldering.

    y2ksw1y2ksw1Před 13 minutami
  • Just use OSHpark if you are in the US, its much faster

    deathpony698deathpony698Před 20 minutami
  • you need to use FLUX.. when applying solder

    Platinum MasteringPlatinum MasteringPřed 12 hodinami
  • Great idea but looks like an expensive inconvenience.

    Pete VanDemarkPete VanDemarkPřed 14 hodinami
  • Very cool concept!

    conicEllipseconicEllipsePřed 16 hodinami
  • Nice toy....too expensive for me, when I can get 5 prototype boards for about $20.00 which includes shipping from JLCPCB. Sure, I have to wait a little over a week, but I'm never in that much of a rush.

    Peter TothPeter TothPřed 21 hodinou
  • As a PCB designer, I’d make the investment if I could do larger, high density, even inner layer boards. But it can’t do any of that. This is only suitable for HOBBYISTS and the $4100 price tag is out of range for a hobbyist. Wanna build a one-off circuit? USE A BREADBOARD INSTEAD

    Rick PontificatesRick PontificatesPřed dnem
  • And your soldering skill still ugly. :D

    Aytac GulAytac GulPřed 2 dny
  • (sees price tag) Nevermind, breadboard it is

    EierEierPřed 2 dny
  • Where do i get the rtx 3090 blueprint

    Sören SchmittSören SchmittPřed 2 dny
  • Or you could get a pocket nc and just order the pcbs.

    James KuberskiJames KuberskiPřed 3 dny
  • Dang, they didn't even let you keep it?

    J ScriptJ ScriptPřed 3 dny
  • cool idea though $3000 !! you can buy a cnc router that does pcb's for about 200

    electronman32kelectronman32kPřed 3 dny
  • Is this a synthetic voiceover video? it is most annoying to hear a pitch change at the end of a statement. I am hearing more and more video's do this. And if it is, why the foriegn accent? And its still easier to wait a week and go do something else in the mean time. Maybe design a few breakout boards for those hard to solder parts before you start designing.

    A MA MPřed 3 dny
  • To me it looks like it doesn't offer any advantage compared to home etching. I can etch pretty complicated PCBs at home, with two layers and then install riveted vias. This ink seems that it will not stick to the PCB that much, the soldering doesn't seem to flow to the ink well enough and there is no soldermask. So basically the same quality than homemade etching but for 4000€... I guess the technology is not ready yet, but surely will be in the future.

    Pol Via OrtegaPol Via OrtegaPřed 4 dny
  • "You can now print PCBs at home! It just takes a $4200 printer!"

    magicstix0rmagicstix0rPřed 5 dny
  • you should practice soldering !!!

    roberto48404roberto48404Před 6 dny
  • Im involved with tube amps, its my hobby. Kinda doubt this PCB can withstand heat that a tube amp produces and around 450 volts in some cases at the same time :)

    Nicko LpsNicko LpsPřed 6 dny
  • Well explained, cool information,thanks :)

    Rixtronix LABRixtronix LABPřed 6 dny
  • It's a very clever piece of equipment. I do think that it needs a bit of retraction adjustment on the nozzle though, judging by the blobs of solder paste at the ends of the tracks!

    tasmedictasmedicPřed 7 dny
  • "But for me, who creates silly youtube videos, I will need professional equipment"

    New ZealandNew ZealandPřed 9 dny
  • For the $4199.98 I can buy a half of fabrics in China, platinum membership or tons of PCB with free shipping. Interesting idea, not price. Cheers.

    Serzh ES1LLSerzh ES1LLPřed 10 dny
  • it seems milling or etching a board would probably be better for some things.

    Charles HinesCharles HinesPřed 10 dny
  • So Much Solder!

    Louis MamakosLouis MamakosPřed 11 dny
  • "Home made" pcb with a 4000€ pcb printer 😐

    Matteo MatteoMatteo MatteoPřed 12 dny
  • i would love to have one of these.

    eekeekPřed 12 dny
  • la la la this looks fun la la HOLY FUCK THE PRICE IS WHHHHAAAAAAATTTTTTTTT??????? fuck no I"ii order pcbs in solid GOLD and have them FEDEX'd next day and save 95% of that !!

    Kindanyume .KindanyumeKindanyume .KindanyumePřed 12 dny
  • Someone poured a lot of cash in this bad idea.

    Guilherme MourãoGuilherme MourãoPřed 12 dny
  • For fast prototyping I still prefer etching. The price is insane and the refill cartridges, etc etc etc ... man, nope.

    HendrikHendrikPřed 15 dny
  • It's never going to be future if it's this costly

    ExquisitEExquisitEPřed 15 dny
  • You can now print printed circuit boards?

    Colin MaharajColin MaharajPřed 15 dny
  • I think an UV printer would be cheaper and more cost effective.

    Tuan yang berhormatTuan yang berhormatPřed 16 dny
  • Great Job! Thanks for sharing.

    Great ProjectsGreat ProjectsPřed 16 dny
  • Somebody get this man some flux, no one should have balls of solder that big. It’s legal now, no one likes a cold joint.

    burtosisburtosisPřed 16 dny
  • Exchange develop etching solution time with rivet punching time.

    alex Loalex LoPřed 17 dny
  • Thanks bro, really like your vids

    Julio LopezJulio LopezPřed 17 dny
  • Mate, don't ever accept products like this on a "loan". The company can pay you for your advertisement.

    Zece KoboldZece KoboldPřed 18 dny
  • Not for that Price of the Printer.. Even if it is just a Prototype... Even a PermaProto Board with Solder Traces looks better and is cheaper that this.. Maybe if they would sell it for 200€.

    KeichiKeichiPřed 18 dny
  • sorry my english please tell me it is very difficult (beginner)

    g ng nPřed 19 dny
  • Somehow the finished board shown here falls woefully short of the quality and utility of a manufactured board.

    Wayne SlaterWayne SlaterPřed 19 dny
  • Why do you talk so weird

    X YX YPřed 21 dnem
  • Seems nifty and all but they got you by the balls for the ink and accessories.

    Leland ClaytonLeland ClaytonPřed 22 dny
  • Of course you can print PCBs; we've been able to do that ever since the PCB was invented; that's what the P from "PCB" stands for!

    Hello Kitty Lover Man!Hello Kitty Lover Man!Před 22 dny
  • I saw the voltera when it came out, thought it was really cool back then... there seems to have been NO improvements, i mean there is a probe and you can probe for your blank, but it cant find it after you flip it over?? and the dispensing seems kinda crap, it should be really at least as good as a 3dprinter, but better details than that would actually be needed in order to provide a better value than etching or milling.. very dissapointed actually :(

    Petter olofssonPetter olofssonPřed 25 dny
  • I guess rapid prototyping in a comercial setting is the only realistic use-case for this device

    lamebubblesflysohighlamebubblesflysohighPřed 25 dny
  • 4000€ to need to cut traces (or separate) wtf??

    Javitxu XJavitxu XPřed 29 dny
  • What a waste of money Scott lol. Reminds me of a child playing around making corny PCB stuffs. You're better off going through china to make PCBs. No one on their right minds would purchase such product, not even professionals since it can not make BGA or FPGA traces. The toner transfer method is still better than this product, sadly...

    S ToS ToPřed měsícem
  • For new technology, this is fantastic! FF a few years and it will be 10% the price and 100% better, fantastic for prototyping!

    Matt SouthMatt SouthPřed měsícem
  • Omg that’s frikin amazing. I see you maybe not get in much sleep for the next while lmfao.

    Mel PlishkaMel PlishkaPřed měsícem
  • So expensive and useless, the printing is not perfect and the printer not to do anti solder mask. Crappy printer for usd 4000? this is a joke! I prefer the cheap thermal transfer toner using the iron with solder mask ink cured by UV with a photolith. the wegstr printer is more better than this by almost the same price of this printer. these two printers are better for universities and companies, they are useless for us, the price not justifies the utility. Great Scott you don't do a siily youtube videos. You have good abilities on electronics. don't subestimate yourself.

    Diego Alfa Del Pino TassoDiego Alfa Del Pino TassoPřed měsícem
  • Awesome that such a thing exists!! But way too expensive for the occasional hobbyist. I'll wait a week.

    Jérémie Faucher-GouletJérémie Faucher-GouletPřed měsícem
  • Hi Scott, I love seeing what you do. I was an electronic hobbyist when I was a kid but once I entered Med school, it kinda died out. After a 100 years, electronic circuitry is still pretty much two dimensional. I hope someday someone will pioneer 3D matrix electronics incorporating 3D printing technology. For a start, it would be nice if circuit boards were cylindrical with a fan mounted at one end. Wanna give it a shot?

    Samuel KSamuel KPřed měsícem
  • The process is finicky. This would be fine if we were modifying an Ender 3 to accept multiple tools or something like that. Not fine for a multi thousand dollar machine - which could be justified if it was a hands-off process. End result doesn't look too different from using a conductive filament. Heck, the old "printer tonner + acid" transfer method gives nicer results.

    Stephen EilertStephen EilertPřed měsícem
  • Muito ruim.

    MSFMSFPřed měsícem
  • It's no way for BGA chips, especially vias needed!

    许侠客许侠客Před měsícem
  • It will catch my interest again when i am able to print with finepitch solderpaste directly (Needs special substrate for that i guess).

    Klaus-Dieter FischerKlaus-Dieter FischerPřed měsícem
  • Great Scott: "Ähm, nein nein nein nein!!!! geh weg PCB Drucker!!, weil du zu teuer bist!!,,

    Aaron FitzgeraldAaron FitzgeraldPřed měsícem
  • I need to make a small audio RCA IO board for a tape deck, all I have a wiring diagram of it, how do I convert that to a goebel file so so I can get one made?

    Aaron FitzgeraldAaron FitzgeraldPřed měsícem
  • I think its faster to wire it on breadboard.

    meowmeowbobomeowmeowboboPřed měsícem
  • My dog just farted and it's BRUTAL

    ShawnShawnPřed měsícem
  • Classy review! This thing is cool, but it's not for everybody.

    jandastroyjandastroyPřed měsícem
  • This printer would be usefull for some school to teach about eletronical components

    CreepSoldierCreepSoldierPřed měsícem
  • Good video, kind of janky product. Better waiting a week for a proper PCB.

    Chetar RubyChetar RubyPřed měsícem
  • If you want a really crap PCB then this is indeed the way to do it.

    Stephen NolanStephen NolanPřed měsícem
  • but always good to watch your content :)

    Rob ForestRob ForestPřed měsícem
  • consumables seem ten times or more overpriced on their site... just crazy

    Rob ForestRob ForestPřed měsícem
  • Homemade PCB printer: Exists JLPCB: Finally, a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary!

    Fan TBSFan TBSPřed měsícem
  • Using the positive pre-sensitized laminate to make the boards is MUCH more practical! You can easily do 15 mil traces and trace spacing. Not practical with the ink or the milling method. The laminate is about $30 a square foot so it is sort of expensive but looking at the cost per board it usually is only a few dollars for most prototype projects.

    glasslingerglasslingerPřed měsícem
  • $4,100 For that wtf are they selling pure gold internals? You can buy an actual professional PCB manufacturing unit for almost that price no joke I have looked into buying one for $5000 and it automatically etches PCB's. You can just use a drill and rivets for vias. Price is just outrageous not to mention etching your own PCBs is very cheap and easy to learn. You can spend $40 in supplies learning to etch your own PCB and the cost goes way down when you know what you're doing. Edit Not to mention they make laser cutters for way cheaper that can cut traces and get an ultra-fine resolution for way cheaper. I just can't justify this price point the whole thing seems way overpriced knowing that there are kits out there that can do what this thing does at a fraction of the cost and better.

    Larry MaceLarry MacePřed měsícem
  • Not my cup of tea, I agree with your final comments 100%. I would like a simpler one which only drills the holes though. Before ordering the final version to our favorite PCB manufacturer, I do etch my own prototypes, and the worst part of it is the drilling of those holes by hand.

    Bora YurtorenBora YurtorenPřed měsícem
  • This device is perfect for it's intended purpose - making prototypes on the fly. Though even with that, they can only be non-sensitive designs, and designs with not high density. The conductive ink's different electrical properties vs copper could really skew some RF or measuring designs. I do not know how much life expectancy such ink would have, such as how the boards would hold up to time, etc. This is brilliant for quick same day testing of layouts and etc, before commiting them to a FAB shop... But that 4k euro price tag... plus expensive consumables that certainly have a shelf life... It costs too much. This sadly lands it as being one of those things universities get wowed by, purchase, use for a bit, and then forget it in a corner. If they can get the price down to say 800 euros, then it is more reasonable. Until then, for quick boards I just stick to laser printer transfer and etching.

    SALCONSALCONPřed měsícem
  • Hey Scott I'm curious why you don't use flux to help with the ease and flow of soldering components?

    Alfred CornflakeAlfred CornflakePřed měsícem
  • printing pcb would be better and faster and cheaper and causing less pollution. cos most of copper is removed from pcb

    humandxphumandxpPřed měsícem
  • By being sponsored by the company of which product you are reviewing you are affiliating yourself with the company and discrediting your video in my opinion

    razibergrazibergPřed měsícem
  • thank you

    হাদিসের জ্ঞানহাদিসের জ্ঞানPřed měsícem
  • Great demo and technology video.

    KEK Freedom HeritageKEK Freedom HeritagePřed měsícem
  • you well deserve your name! all and every of your videos are Great. Thank you!

    Sébastien LégerSébastien LégerPřed měsícem
  • To mutch expensif for what it does...Long proccess and quality is So...SO....

    Hibou-53 XHibou-53 XPřed měsícem
  • I'm wondered how there are no local quick manufacturers available for most parts of the world and people must send their designs to china and wait week(s) to get them. Here I can get my PCBs maskless in less than 10 hours or 3-4 days with solder masks and overlays. I'm wondered how developed countries are ignoring these fundamental industries, forwarding them to China. What would you do if China sanctions you or if they increase their prices like the increase in the cost of silicon wafers recently?

    Mohammad VMohammad VPřed měsícem
  • Wow, your accent is really phucked up.

    Ghosted YoutuberGhosted YoutuberPřed měsícem
  • Jlc pcb is sad after this video was published!!!

    Jassi HarryJassi HarryPřed měsícem
  • Well currently some of us have FDM 3d printers at home. This device not looks different from FDM 3d printer. It should not be to hard to modify our 3d printers, for them to instead of extruding hot molten plastic, for it extrude this paste from syringe. Maybe something like interchangeable Head one for 3d printing, one for light CNC drilling, and for extruding syringes.

    Mikheil GhvinianidzeMikheil GhvinianidzePřed měsícem
  • For finished product? Not really. For rapid prototyping? It's absolutely perfect.

    shadowtheimpureshadowtheimpurePřed měsícem
  • price kind of puts it outside of scope for prototyping even basic PCBs when online PCB ordering services are way cheaper and give you multiple PCBs to test with. imo

    Ron LawsRon LawsPřed měsícem
  • I was using WEGSTR at work, it had its issues, even quite a lot. This device is not a breaking tech, it might be better than WEGSTR but in some particular cases, do you know anything better for professional quick pcbs design?

    maciolos9maciolos9Před měsícem
  • Trying to learn how to setup and use that printer, then do some trial & error would've took me more than a week to figure everything out. So, I'd rather wait for a week to have my PCB made instead! 😂🤣

    Rich MadridRich MadridPřed měsícem
  • That's crap...

    Gabriel FreitasGabriel FreitasPřed měsícem
  • JLCPCB can get you a professional PCB all over the world for a low price in one week. One week is an acceptable wait, I work on the PCB design during the weekend, I send for production on Saturday or Sunday, the PCB normally arrives to work on them by the next weekend.

    Santo PinoSanto PinoPřed měsícem
  • "You can now PRINT PCBs!" PCB: Printed Circuit Board

    You Gotta be Joshing meYou Gotta be Joshing mePřed měsícem
    • The masks used to etch the board are, in fact, printed.

      Wesley MaysWesley MaysPřed 16 dny
    • "You can now PRINT Printed Circuit Boards!"

      Amplitude ModulationAmplitude ModulationPřed měsícem
  • At 1:18 - that's you? Strange, you don't _sound_ like you have a beard ...

    restcurerestcurePřed měsícem
  • You should make a video on the raspberry pi Pico as an Arduino alternative. It would be intresting.

    Blake SchwankeBlake SchwankePřed měsícem
  • My question is if I could just make a pcb ink head for my 3d printer

    Rob MckennieRob MckenniePřed měsícem
  • This video is not sponsored by JLCPCB lol

    Error 909 Not FoundError 909 Not FoundPřed měsícem
  • Hopefully this technology develops to a better one. This looks like the first 3D printer back in the day.

    JanTubeJanTubePřed měsícem
  • This feels like a complete sell-out, hope you at least got one to keep or a decent amount for it..

    PresDecPresDecPřed měsícem
  • good idea but quite gimmicky :))

    Saeid YazdaniSaeid YazdaniPřed měsícem
  • Too expensive for a poor result

    Studio DorianStudio DorianPřed měsícem
  • My uni bought one of these. They are very usefull for fast (in comparison instant) prototyping. However you do have to treat ground planes differently. The software is amazing and student proof. Not sure if they fixed it in the mean time, but you can't skip the heating fase on double sided prints. We have an external oven that can heat way faster would save about an hour. If you do get one, get extra spare nozzles.

    luukje999luukje999Před měsícem
  • This video sponsor is: Elektor! btw, dont buy their PCB printers🤣 good review👍🏻

    Bas van HarenBas van HarenPřed měsícem
  • Far better results with pre-sensitized etching.

    Jorge PintoJorge PintoPřed měsícem
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